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A Q1 letter to clients: Bernanke, Buffett and Siegel on the Prospects Ahead
Wednesday, April 4th, 2012
Each quarter since 2008, I have posted a template for a letter to serve as a starting point for advisors looking to send clients a summary of what’s happened in the past 90 days; and the outlook for the period ahead.
Advisors have told me that they’ve got a great response to these quarterly letters and the templates rank among my most popular articles. This letter goes into more depth on global growth forecasts than past templates. If this is more detail than you think your clients will be interested in you can easily delete this section.
Just a reminder that if you’re going to use this letter, take the time to customize it and put it into your own words, so that it truly does represent your point of view.
An overview of Q1 2012 markets: Bernanke, Buffett and Siegel on the prospects ahead:
The first quarter of 2012 represented the strongest start for the U.S. stock market since 1998; with Japan turning in its best first quarter gains in 24 years. This was largely driven by a reduction of fears about an extremely negative outcome in Europe, as well as stronger economic data in the U.S.
Of course, there are some formidable issues still to be addressed. This letter provides perspective on some of these issues, and outlines some thoughts on what we can expect for the balance of 2012 and beyond. As part of that, I have tapped into recent comments from Ben Bernanke and Warren Buffett, as well as Christine Lagarde; managing director of the International Monetary Fund and the Wharton School’s Jeremy Siegel, today’s leading market historian.
Before getting into their views, here’s a summary of market performance in the first quarter, all in local currency so as to exclude currency fluctuations. Even with strong first quarter returns, most markets with the exception of the United States are underwater over the past 12 months. Its resource exposure has meant that Canada has been a particular laggard over the past year.
| Emerging | Global | |||||
| Canada | US | Europe | Japan | Markets | Returns | |
| January | 5% | 5% | 4% | 4% | 7% | 5% |
| February | 2% | 4% | 5% | 11% | 5% | 5% |
| March | –2% | 3% | 0% | 3% | –1% | 2% |
| Q1 2012 | 5% | 13% | 9% | 19% | 11% | 12% |
| Last 12 months | –11% | 7% | –4% | 1% | –4% | 1% |
The IMF’s view: A reduced forecast for global growth:
The single factor that more than any other will drive stock markets over the mid-term is the path of global economic growth; Europe in particular remains a question mark. In early January, the International Monetary Fund reduced its forecast for global growth, and predicted that continental Europe would see a mild recession in 2012. Here are excerpts from the IMF’s January forecast for economic growth:
Economic Growth:
| Actual | Projections | Changes from Sept 2011 forecast | ||||
| 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013 | 2012 | 2013 | |
| World output | 5.20% | 3.80% | 3.30% | 3.90% | –0.70% | –0.60% |
| Advanced economies | 3.20% | 1.60% | 1.20% | 1.90% | –0.70% | –0.50% |
| Emerging economies | 7.30% | 6.20% | 5.40% | 5.90% | –0.70% | –0.60% |
| Canada | 3.20% | 2.30% | 1.70% | 2.00% | –0.20% | –0.50% |
| United States | 3.00% | 1.80% | 1.80% | 2.20% | 0.00% | –0.30% |
| Euro area | 1.90% | 1.60% | –0.50% | 0.80% | –1.60% | –0.70% |
| China | 10.40% | 9.20% | 8.20% | 8.80% | –0.80% | –0.70% |
Bernanke & Lagarde: Sign of improvement … but efforts must continue:
Since this forecast was released in January, actions by global governments have changed the European outlook for the better. Indeed, it was greater optimism about a resolution to Europe’s issues that fueled the first quarter’s strong market performance.
There is still much work to do, however. March 20th featured a press conference by Christine Lagarde, Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund and, formerly Finance Minister in France. She painted a more positive but still cautious picture. Here’s how her remarks began:
“In terms of global economic outlook, we are certainly not, and I do say not in as bad a situation as we were only three months ago; and there have clearly been some significant improvements.”
“Coupled with an uptick coming out of the United States of America, it gives an overall picture (for Europe) that is slightly more positive than it was three months ago; not to say that all the difficulties have been cleared. If I have one message, it’s that the reforms and the efforts underway in advanced economies have to continue and that the same vigorous rigor has to be applied by Governments in the programs and the efforts that they have undertaken.”
The very next day, Ben Bernanke spoke to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform about the Federal Reserve Board’s views on Europe. He pointed to improvement in Europe and focused on three positive steps on the continent to increase stability. He also discussed favourable results of stress tests of banks in the event of a severe pullback in the U.S. economy.
But his closing comments echoed Christine Lagarde’s note of caution about the need for further action to address Europe’s structural issues:
“The recent reduction in financial stress in Europe is welcome given our important trade linkages. The situation however remains difficult and it’s critical that European policy leaders follow through on their commitment to achieve a lasting stabilization. I believe our European counterparts understand the challenges they face and they’re committed to take the necessary steps to address those issues.”
Should you be interested in watching them, here are links to the comments from Ben Bernanke (CLICK HERE) and Christine Lagarde (CLICK HERE).
Also, you can CLICK HERE to go to the IMF’s most recent global growth forecast.
From my own point of view, it’s worth noting that given European issues and a slowdown in China, there is broad consensus that the next five years will see “2, 6 and 4” growth; an average of 2% in developed countries, and 6% in emerging economies, leading to 4% global growth overall. It’s this divergence in growth between developed and emerging countries that is driving increased focus by multi nationals on faster growing emerging economies.
Warren Buffett: “America’s best days lie ahead:”
In the face of challenges for developed economies, there is a persistent view of America as an “empire in decline.” This was reinforced by last year’s downgrade of US debt and by the stalemate in Congress over dealing with America’s deficit and debt challenges.
As I look at formulating recommendations for my clients, I don’t subscribe to the view of a declining America. Without dismissing its issues, the biggest competitive advantage for United States is its vitality and capacity for change and innovation. It continues to dominate in high tech, and remains a magnet for the best and brightest talent from around the world.
I’m not alone in this view. Here’s an excerpt from Warren Buffett’s annual letter to investors released in February:
“In 2011, we will set a new record for capital spending, $8 billion and spend all of the $2 billion increase in the United States. Money will always flow toward opportunity, and there is an abundance of that in America. Commentators today often talk of “great uncertainty.” But think back, for example, to December 6, 1941, October 18, 1987 and September 10, 2001. No matter how serene today may be, tomorrow is always uncertain.”
“The prophets of doom have overlooked the all-important factor that is certain: Human potential is far from exhausted, and the American system for unleashing that potential, a system that has worked wonders for over two centuries; despite frequent interruptions for recessions and even Civil War remains alive and effective. We are not natively smarter than we were when our country was founded, nor do we work harder. But look around you and see a world beyond the dreams of any colonial citizen. Now, as in 1776, 1861, 1932 and 1941, America’s best days lie ahead.”
You can read Warren Buffett’s full letter to investors HERE.
A long term perspective on valuations:
While economic growth enables long term increases in corporate profits as a whole, in the short and mid-term we have to pay a fair value for the companies we buy. Anyone who invested at the peak of the U.S. market valuations in 2000 learned a hard lesson about the perils of losing focus on what we pay for a dollar of earnings.
There are few more hotly debated issues on Wall Street than whether today’s market is overvalued, undervalued or priced just right. In looking at all the available data, my own conclusion is that the market is roughly fairly valued.
That’s not to say it doesn’t face some speed bumps in the period ahead. But I was interested to see a March 29 interview with Jeremy Siegel of the Wharton School. Author of Stocks for the Long Run, which examined almost 200 years of market data, in this interview Siegel looks at historical precedent; and sees significant upside potential at today’s stock valuations. To see his interview, CLICK HERE.
What this means for your portfolio:
While all portfolios are customized to clients’ specific needs, there are three guiding principles to the advice that I offer.
1. The first relates to the allocation between stocks and bonds, and comes from Benjamin Graham; the Columbia professor who was Warren Buffett’s teacher, and who is considered the father of value investing. In a recently discovered 1963 talk, Graham had this to say on asset allocation:
“In my nearly fifty years of experience on Wall Street, I’ve found that I know less and less about what the stock market is going to do but I know more and more about what investors ought to do. My suggestion is that the minimum amount (of the investor’s) portfolio held in common stocks should be 25% and the maximum should be 75%. Consequently the maximum amount held in bonds would be 75% and the minimum 25%; any variations should be clearly based on value considerations.”
2. The second principle relates to, barring a significant change in circumstances, sticking within the investment framework that we’re decided upon.
Some of you may recall my advice in early 2009, as we faced what appeared to be an end of the world scenario and some stocks hit lows they hadn’t seen in 20 years. At that time, I urged clients to maintain a core level of equity exposure. Recently, I have had questions from clients about increasing equity weight in portfolios, given low interest rate and strong stock performance in the first quarter.
While I am always happy to discuss this on a case by case basis, given the level of uncertainty that still exists, I generally advise against increasing equity allocation from the level that we had going into 2012.
3. The final principle relates to the role of cash flow from investments. In an uncertain environment for economic growth and equity returns, we continue to place priority on the cash yield from investments. In my view, the returns on some REITs, corporate bonds and dividend stocks in selective sectors continue to make these attractive relative to the available alternatives.
Should you have any questions on anything I’ve covered in this note or on any other issue, please feel free to contact myself or one of the members of my team directly. And as always, thank you for the opportunity to serve as your financial advisor.

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Using credible experts to help clients stick to their plans
Wednesday, January 25th, 2012
Warren Buffett has said it only takes two things for investors to succeed — having a sound plan and sticking to it…and it’s the sticking to it part where most people struggle.
Along similar lines, the key for advisors in helping clients succeed is not developing the right plan, it’s putting in place strategies to help clients stick to the plan once it’s developed.
That’s typically not a big problem when people are making money and investors feel rewarded for being in markets.
But it’s a huge issue in times like these, when it’s easy for Canadians to become anxious and discouraged…to go to cash with their existing investments and stop making RRSP contributions.
In light of that, here’s a strategy that can help clients maintain confidence and stick to their plans.
Providing perspective
In my conversations with Canadian investors, almost all want to deal with advisors who are generally positive but at the same time provide a balanced perspective; so don’t fall into the perma-bull “don’t worry be happy” camp.
That’s why you can’t dismiss the issues that global economies and stock markets are facing.
And with many clients, you can’t rely on just your own opinion or your firm’s research — in times like these, it’s helpful to provide support from trusted, third party sources.
The leading voices in the valuation debate
That’s the reason that in early July I conducted video interviews with both Jeremy Siegel and Robert Shiller, the two leading voices on the market valuations, with a view to presenting both sides of the argument on market valuations.
Both Siegel and Shiller are highly credible — they each called the tech meltdown and take a fact-based approach to their analysis.
Here’s the link to a March Wall Street Journal front page story that highlighted these two academics as the leading voices in the undervalued vs. overvalued debate: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704706304575107492632567802.html
Using the videos with clients
Last week, videos of the interviews with Siegel and Shiller were posted to the Clientinsights.ca website.
There are a couple of ways to use these interviews.
One is to email clients the one that supports your point of view.
Alternatively, you might want to send clients not just the one you agree with but both videos — and then talk about the contrary case that has been presented.
By demonstrating that you’ve looked at the full gamut of views rather than telling just one side of story, your ultimate recommendation has more power.
So if you’re recommending clients stay fully invested, it’s important to show clients you’ve examined the negative case.
And if you’re cautious and recommending cash, it’s helpful to demonstrate that you’re not ignoring the optimistic voices.
Doing this entails a longer, more detailed conversation — but it’s this kind of conversation that helps clients stick to their plan at the inevitable time when the market goes against the stance you’ve taken.
To watch videos of two of the interviews with Jeremy Siegel, click here:
Why stocks are undervalued
Responding on market concerns:
And these interviews summarize Robert Shiller’s views on the market:
A cautious outlook for stocks:
The impact of consumer confidence:
To watch a dozen different interviews with Jeremy Siegel and Robert Shiller, go to www.clientinsights.ca.

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Avoiding Credibility Traps
Wednesday, November 9th, 2011
Many advisors are actively engaged in dialogue with clients about the market ups and downs of the past month.
Part of your conversation will typically focus on putting the decline we’ve seen in historical context — an important priority, since good advisors provide perspective as part of their role. And there’s lots of statistical data on the magnitude, duration and time to recover from past downturns to help reassure investors. Especially for more analytical, numbers driven clients, I’d encourage you to use the charts and graphs which your firm provides or which are available from sources such as Jeremy Siegel’s Stocks for the Long Run or Ibbotson’s Stocks, Bonds, Bills and Inflation yearbook.
At the same time, I would caution you against using parallels which clients view as lacking balance and which risk undermining your credibility — anything smacking even slightly of a “sales pitch” risks positioning you as a “salesperson” rather than an objective professional.
Here are a couple of examples of potentially troublesome tactics.
Every advisor (and many clients) have heard the “stocks on sale“analogy — when GAP or Future Shop have a sale, people stand in line and flock to buy, but when stocks are down 15%, many investors avoid them like the plague.
Here’s the difficulty with this analogy: A common response from investors is that when Future Shop has a sale, they know what the regular price of the item is and that prices will be back to normal the day after the sale ends. They don’t have any such assurance when it comes to stocks — and many still bear the scars from Nortel and other tech boom darlings as proof of that.
Another frequently used argument is the devastating impact of “missing the best days” — whether it be the best 10, 20 or 60 days — as a warning about being out of the market.
When walked through this argument, the typical response by investors is “that’s all fine and good, but what’s the impact of missing the WORST sixty days?”.
This is not to say that messages about buying when valuations are depressed or staying invested aren’t the right ones — but advisors have to be extremely cautious about using evidence for these messages which contradicts your image as a source of objective advice. Being seen as even a little bit self serving or unbalanced in the counsel you provide can plant a seed of doubt in your clients’ minds and undermine your positioning as a trusted professional who puts clients’ needs first.

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Guidance from Buffett, Gross and Siegel — An End of Quarter Letter to Clients
Wednesday, July 6th, 2011
Given recent unrest in Europe and uncertainty about economic growth, many clients are looking to their advisors for direction on what they should do.
This template for an end of quarter letter is intended to be a starting point for your own letter to clients, one that can be a catalyst for a conversation about how to position portfolios.
In the past, I have used quotes from Mark Twain, Winston Churchill, Benjamin Graham and Warren Buffett to set the tone for these templates. This quarter’s letter once again uses a quote from Buffett, along with Bill Gross and Jeremy Siegel.
One note of caution — to be effective, this letter has to reflect your approach, personality and point of view. Be sure to take the time to customize the letter to incorporate your own views.
July 4, 2011
Buffett, Gross and Siegel — Finding opportunities in today’s market
“Money will always flow toward opportunity and there is an abundance of that in America .… Human potential is far from exhausted and the American system for unleashing that potential … remains alive and effective.
Warren Buffett
Berkshire Hathaway Letter to Shareholders, February 2011
“In terms of the stock market, there are amazing opportunities … (compared to US government bonds) there’s a huge gap and a huge differential.”
Bill Gross, Morningstar Fixed Income Manager of the Decade
CNBC — June 7, 2011
“We’ve almost never seen valuations (on the US stock market) this low when interest rates are as low as they are today .… relative to bonds today, I’ve almost never seen such compelling values.”
Professor Jeremy Siegel, Wharton School
Author: Stocks for the long run
Business News Network — June 28, 2011
At the end of each quarter, I send clients a letter summarizing events of the past three months … and usually try to find relevant quotations to establish the tone for my note.
Given the recent concerns about European debt and uncertainty about economic growth, in this quarter’s letter I am sharing recent perspectives from three of today’s most respected stock market observers: Warren Buffett; Morningstar fixed income manager of the decade Bill Gross; and Wharton researcher Jeremy Siegel, considered today’s leading stock market historian.
Before getting into their views, here’s a quick recap on the first quarter.
Market performance in the first half
Developed markets registered solid gains in the first quarter, despite the setback from March’s earthquake and tsunami in Japan.
The second quarter was a different story, with concerns arising from growing inflation threats in emerging markets, sovereign debt worries in Europe and a downgrading of growth forecasts for the global economy. Below are first half results for key markets — note that these are in local currencies, so that the effect of swings in the dollar are not reflected here.
Warren Buffett — “Betting on America”
In November of 2009, Berkshire Hathaway spent $26 billion to buy the 77% of rail giant Burlington Northern that it didn’t already own. In interviews, Warren Buffett referred to this as “betting on America.” Buffett has been consistent in his positive outlook for the U.S. economy, looking past short term events to focus on American ingenuity and resolve and its ability to attract the best and the brightest from around the world.
Buffett is consistently voted the greatest investor of all time. In the 46 years he’s run Berkshire Hathaway, annual growth in book value has exceeded 20%, more than twice the gains for the U.S. stock market index. Even more remarkable, Buffett’s numbers are after tax, while the index’s gains are pretax. And while he lagged in individual years, in his last letter to shareholders Buffett pointed out that there has never been a five year period where Berkshire Hathaway underperformed the S & P.
To put his record into dollar terms, $1000 invested in the Standard & Poors index of US stocks at the start of 1965 would have risen by the end of 2010 to $62,620. By contrast, that same $1000 under Buffett’s stewardship would have grown to over $4 million.
Here’s an excerpt from this year’s letter to investors, published in February.
“Last year — in the face of widespread pessimism about our economy — we demonstrated our enthusiasm for capital investment at Berkshire by spending $6 billion on property and equipment. Of this amount, $5.4 billion — or 90% of the total — was spent in the United States. Certainly our businesses will expand abroad in the future, but an overwhelming part of their future investments will be at home. In 2011, we will set a new record for capital spending — $8 billion — and spend all of the $2 billion increase in the United States.
Money will always flow toward opportunity and there is an abundance of that in America. Commentators often talk of “great uncertainty. Throughout my lifetime, politicians and pundits have constantly moaned about terrifying problems facing America.
Yet our citizens now live an astonishing six times better than when I was born. The prophets of doom have overlooked the all-important factor that is certain: Human potential is far from exhausted, and the American system for unleashing that potential — a system that has worked wonders for over two centuries despite frequent interruptions for recessions and even a Civil War — remains alive and effective.”
Here’s a link to Warren Buffett’s February letter to shareholders: http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2010ltr.pdf
Bill Gross — “The case for stocks that pay dividends”
My second expert is someone who’s not nearly as well known to the investing public — but is a household name among professional investors.
As manager of PIMCO Total Return Fund, the world’s largest bond fund, Bill Gross turned in a track record matched by few others and was named Morningstar Fixed Income Manager of the Decade. In part, this stems from his willingness to take contrarian views; in 2010, he went on record talking about the “new normal” of lower growth, higher inflation and increased risk in holding debt of governments around the world.

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Three Articles to Combat Celebrity Bears
Wednesday, June 29th, 2011
Last week’s “Night of the bears” in Toronto drew lots of media coverage.Here are three articles you can send clients that provide perspective on the celebrity bears — two come for the Globe and Mail, the other features Professor Jeremy Siegel from Wharton in an article and audio interview.“Celebrity bears all the rage; but we’ve seen fads before”
Bearish mantras need to be heard; but with a grain of salt
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”Bears, bulls and the hazards of gurudom”
Consider the possibility that the bears might miss it when the economy turns
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Jeremy Siegel: ‘Once the Market Has Fallen 50%, Your Future Returns Are Even Better’
http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/index.cfm?fa=viewfeature&id=2188
U.S. stocks raised eyebrows this week and last, closing higher in six of seven trading days, including four in a row from March 10 to 13. But how does the market look for the longer term? In an interview with Knowledge@Wharton, Wharton finance professor Jeremy J. Siegel says he was pleased to see consecutive gains after so many declines. He adds that history provides lots of evidence that stocks remain good long-term investments, especially when they are down 50% from their peak.
Visit http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/index.cfm?fa=viewfeature&id=2188 for the complete story.
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Do You Need a Code of Conduct?
Tuesday, October 19th, 2010
Recently, I got an email from an advisor asking for suggestions on how to deal with clients who sold some or all of their portfolio near the 2008-lows.
More specifically, he wanted to know if it’s worthwhile educating these clients of where they would be had they not sold out? Or does he risk further damaging their ego and what remains of the relationship?
He also asked for my thoughts on dealing with three types of personalities he has seen emerge among his clients:
1) Almost a permanent “pessimism” about the world and markets will crash again (not sure he wants to keep these ones)
2) Acknowledgement that it was not a good time to sell and considering re-entry in the markets (these make him slightly nervous since there will be drops in the future)
3) Those who are frustrated and almost paralyzed… unsure what to do especially given low interest rates.
Clients who sold at the bottom
For clients who bailed out in late 2008 or early 2009, I do think it’s worth approaching them about sitting down and revisiting where they stand.
The key is to make this conversation forward-looking, focusing on the opportunities today – there’s nothing to be gained by going back over missed opportunities.
So it comes down to making an assessment of today’s valuations, clients’ time frames and ability to withstand market downturns – and also the rate of return they need to achieve their goals.
As for clients who are still apprehensive, many investors are spooked by all the negative headlines in the media.
Here you need third party support. On my website I have posted articles referring to positive comments about prospects for the period ahead by Warren Buffett, Steve Ballmer and Jeff Immelt at a conference in mid September.
And I also have an interview with Jeremy Siegel of Wharton, considered today’s leading stock market historian, that I recorded in July - “The case for undervalued markets” – that is still relevant today.
When talking to clients about reentering the market, assuming you are modestly positive in the mid term as I am, you could recommend phasing their shift from cash to equity in over a twelve month period, investing the funds in two or three stages .
This feels less risky and is more comfortable for many clients and also sends the positive signal that you’re not in a rush to get their money invested and generating revenue for you.
Three troublesome client profiles
For clients who are “almost permanently pessimistic” about the world and markets will crash again, I agree that it’s generally not productive keeping “permanently pessimistic” clients – they’re unlikely to change and will likely sap your own energy with limited return.
For clients who acknowledge that it was not a good time to sell and are considering re-entry in the markets , but make this advisor slightly nervous since there will be drops in the future, these cases I wouldn’t be as hard on.
Lots of people (including advisors) got spooked in 2008 and early 2009, it truly did feel like we might be looking into the abyss. In these cases, you need to have a candid conversation about the certainty of continued volatility – and have a discussion about their ability to withstand this.
Finally, for clients who are frustrated and almost paralyzed… unsure what to do especially given low interest rates, low rates are obviously a huge issue, especially for seniors.
In some of these cases, advisors are going to have to broaden their horizons, looking at moving out on the volatility curve, putting part of client portfolios in solutions like investment grade corporate bond funds, emerging market bond funds (currently yielding 6%), REITs and bank alternative lending firms.
You obviously need to talk to clients about the greater risk of these alternatives compared to Government bonds – but even if it takes more time to have these conversations, they’re still going to be essential in many cases.

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Navigating Post-Financial-Meltdown Reviews
Tuesday, October 19th, 2010
Recently, I got an email from an advisor asking for suggestions on how to deal with clients who sold some or all of their portfolio near the 2008-lows.
More specifically, he wanted to know if it’s worthwhile educating these clients of where they would be had they not sold out? Or does he risk further damaging their ego and what remains of the relationship?
He also asked for my thoughts on dealing with three types of personalities he has seen emerge among his clients:
1) Almost a permanent “pessimism” about the world and markets will crash again (not sure he wants to keep these ones)
2) Acknowledgement that it was not a good time to sell and considering re-entry in the markets (these make him slightly nervous since there will be drops in the future)
3) Those who are frustrated and almost paralyzed… unsure what to do especially given low interest rates.
Clients who sold at the bottom
For clients who bailed out in late 2008 or early 2009, I do think it’s worth approaching them about sitting down and revisiting where they stand.
The key is to make this conversation forward-looking, focusing on the opportunities today – there’s nothing to be gained by going back over missed opportunities.
So it comes down to making an assessment of today’s valuations, clients’ time frames and ability to withstand market downturns – and also the rate of return they need to achieve their goals.
As for clients who are still apprehensive, many investors are spooked by all the negative headlines in the media.
Here you need third party support. On my website I have posted articles referring to positive comments about prospects for the period ahead by Warren Buffett, Steve Ballmer and Jeff Immelt at a conference in mid September.
And I also have an interview with Jeremy Siegel of Wharton, considered today’s leading stock market historian, that I recorded in July - “The case for undervalued markets” – that is still relevant today.
When talking to clients about reentering the market, assuming you are modestly positive in the mid term as I am, you could recommend phasing their shift from cash to equity in over a twelve month period, investing the funds in two or three stages .
This feels less risky and is more comfortable for many clients and also sends the positive signal that you’re not in a rush to get their money invested and generating revenue for you.
Three troublesome client profiles
For clients who are “almost permanently pessimistic” about the world and markets will crash again, I agree that it’s generally not productive keeping “permanently pessimistic” clients – they’re unlikely to change and will likely sap your own energy with limited return.
For clients who acknowledge that it was not a good time to sell and are considering re-entry in the markets , but make this advisor slightly nervous since there will be drops in the future, these cases I wouldn’t be as hard on.
Lots of people (including advisors) got spooked in 2008 and early 2009, it truly did feel like we might be looking into the abyss. In these cases, you need to have a candid conversation about the certainty of continued volatility – and have a discussion about their ability to withstand this.
Finally, for clients who are frustrated and almost paralyzed… unsure what to do especially given low interest rates, low rates are obviously a huge issue, especially for seniors.
In some of these cases, advisors are going to have to broaden their horizons, looking at moving out on the volatility curve, putting part of client portfolios in solutions like investment grade corporate bond funds, emerging market bond funds (currently yielding 6%), REITs and bank alternative lending firms.
You obviously need to talk to clients about the greater risk of these alternatives compared to Government bonds – but even if it takes more time to have these conversations, they’re still going to be essential in many cases.

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Helping Clients Stick to Their Plans
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010
Warren Buffett has said it only takes two things for investors to succeed — having a sound plan and sticking to it … and it’s the sticking to it part where most people struggle.
Along similar lines, the key for advisors in helping clients succeed is not developing the right plan, it’s putting in place strategies to help clients stick to the plan once it’s developed.
That’s less of an issue when people are making money and investors feel rewarded for being in markets.
But it’s a huge issue in times like these, when it’s easy for Canadians to become anxious and discouraged … to go to cash with their existing investments and stop making RRSP contributions.
Here are two tactics that might help clients maintain confidence and stick to their plans:
Providing perspective
In my conversations with Canadian investors, almost all want to deal with advisors who are at the same time generally positive but also provide a balanced perspective, so don’t fall into the perma-bull “don’t worry be happy” camp.
That’s why you can’t dismiss the issues that global economies and stock markets are facing.
And with many clients, you can’t rely on just your own opinion or your firm’s research — in times like these, it’s helpful to provide support from trusted, third party sources.
You also have to be careful about only telling one side of the story — in fact by demonstrating that you’ve looked at the full gamut of views, your ultimate recommendation has more power.
So if you’re recommending clients stay fully invested, it’s important to show clients you’ve examined the negative case.
And if you’re cautious and recommending cash, it’s helpful to demonstrate that you’re not ignoring the optimistic voices.
That’s the reason that in early July I spoke to both Jeremy Siegel and Robert Shiller, the two leading voices on the market valuations, so that I could present both sides of the argument on market valuations — and so that advisors could present both sides to clients.
Both Siegel and Shiller are highly credible — they both called the tech meltdown and take a fact-based approach to their analysis.
And if you’re going to use one of these interviews with clients to support your case, you might want to send clients not just the one you agree with but both videos — and then talk about the contrary case that has been presented.
Doing this entails a longer, more detailed conversation — but it’s this kind of conversation that helps clients stick to their plan when the market goes against whichever stance you’ve taken.

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Rebuilding client confidence in stocks
Wednesday, July 21st, 2010
These days, there’s a cloud of uncertainty over markets, with questions about economic growth, government deficits, the timing and impact of interest rates increases, unemployment levels and the US housing market.
Combined with recent market volatility and disappointing stock returns over the past ten years, it’s no surprise that many investors have lost confidence that stocks will be a good place to be over the mid and long term … especially when they hear respected money managers like Bill Gross talk about a “new normal” of slower economic growth and lower returns on stocks.
The result is that many investors have money earning next to nothing in cash. That’s fine if someone only needs a 1% or 2% return to hit their long term goals — but for many investors, their current allocations mean it will be impossible to achieve their long term goals.
And it’s in this kind of an environment that advisors can bring value, by providing perspective on both sides of the debate about the value that stocks provide at today’s levels.
Expert views on stock valuations
Today, the the leading proponents that stocks are cheap and that they’re expensive are Wharton’s Jeremy Siegel, author of Stocks for the Long Run and Yale’s Robert Shiller, who wrote Irrational Exuberance.
Notably, both went on record in early 2000 to the effect that tech stocks were overvalued and at unsustainable levels — but since then have diverged on their assessments of stock market valuations.
Ten days ago, I travelled to Philadelphia and New Haven and spent an hour with each of Professors Siegel and Shiller, who coincidentally are long-time friends who regularly vacation together on the Jersey Shore.
Our conversations on market valuations are summarized in my column in today’s Globe and Mail, which is at the bottom of this email and which can be sent to clients.
The case for stocks as expensive
Robert Shiller looks at corporate earnings adjusted for inflation over the past ten years — looking back ten years eliminates short term distortions in any given year.
Over the past hundred and fifty year, stocks have traded at an average multiple of sixteen times an average of the past ten year earnings.
Today, stocks trade at around twenty times their average earnings. I make the point in my Globe column that while not close to the peak level of forty times historical earnings they hit in 2000, this is still historically expensive — and suggests returns in the period ahead below the long term levels of 9% before inflation and 6% after inflation.
As an aside, In January I spent 90 minutes with Shiller over lunch, having fortuitously bumped into him at the Atlanta airport. At that time, he made the comment that even when stocks are at 20 times average ten year earnings, investors can still do respectably in the following period.
Today, he is more pessimistic, as he’s concerned that eroding confidence by American consumers and business could lead to a downward spiral of reduced spending, which in and of itself could trigger a double dip recession.
And he concluded our conversation by saying that he’s uncertain whether investors will be better off in stocks or in bonds in the period ahead.
The argument for stocks as cheap
Jeremy Siegel has a very different take on the value in stocks.
In my Globe column, I note that he uses a different method to value stocks and reaches a different conclusion — his analysis suggests that compared to long term averages stocks are undervalued by 25% to 30%.
The biggest difference between his approach and Robert Shiller’s is that his is forward looking, focusing on consensus earnings forecasts for this year and next. Among his criticisms of Robert Shiller’s methodology is that mega-writeoffs such as the $80 billion writedown by AIG will distort the earnings base from which backward looking calculations are conducted for years to come.
Siegel has looked at U.S. stock market valuations over a 200 year period. During that time, the average stock multiple of earnings has been 15 times — that compares with a multiple of consensus earnings forecasts of 13 times for this year and 11 times for next year.
The impact of low interest rates
Siegel’s average of 15 times earnings includes periods of double digit inflation, when multiples are typically depressed — excluding periods of double digit inflation, the average multiple that the market paid for earnings was 17 times.
If earnings forecasts for next year are accurate, then returning to that long term average of 15 times earnings would see stocks increase by 30%, rising to the historical low inflation valuation norm would see stocks rise by 50%.
Addressing the new normal of lower growth
We also discussed some of the arguments by Bill Gross at PIMCO and others about a new normal of slower economic growth, due to deleveraging, re regulation and a reduction in the pace of globalization.
His response was that these are legitimate concerns but that they ignore the impact of innovation and especially the effect of the internet.
Siegel points to the internet as a transformative tool in accelerating the pace of innovation, as scientists and researchers around the world are able to work together in real time.
And he went on to say that this will inevitably lead to faster economic growth.
Communicating your views to clients
In an industry where opinion often drowns out reason, Robert Shiller and Jeremy Siegel stand out for their careful, fact-based approaches.
Which view you and your clients favour will largely depend on your going-in biases — those who are currently negative will look to Robert Shiller’s approach, those who are more optimistic will side with Jeremy Siegel.
The good news is that these two views lay out clear parameters for the upside and downside case for stocks — and provide the foundation for a reasoned discussion about the direction of stocks in the period ahead.
And by sharing the arguments on both sides of the debate with clients, you position yourself as someone who considers all the facts before reaching conclusions and making recommendations.
Two routes back into the market
A final comment on helping clients get back into the market, if after discussing this you agree that it makes sense to increase their stock allocations.
At that point, you can go in one of two directions.
One is to immediately move to the target allocation.
The advantage of making the full move now is that clients will benefit from any run-up in stocks and you won’t have to contend with hesitation to complete the commitment in six and twelve months.
The downside to this approach is that if markets see a short-term setback, you risk heightened anxiety from your client and potentially losing that client entirely.
The alternative is to phase in that move in stages, with perhaps a third now, a third in six months and the final portion in a year.
For many clients this is a more comfortable approach than investing the total amount right now.
Further, by suggesting that you phase in the commitment you reduce the risk of clients wondering about whether your advice is influenced by the desire to earn higher compensation from funds that are invested in the market rather than sitting in cash.
To watch two of the interviews with Jeremy Siegel, click below — note that additional videos are available at www.clientinsights.ca
Why stocks are undervalued:
Responding to market concerns:

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