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The Final Step to Make Client Meetings Truly Successful
Tuesday, October 30th, 2012
by Dan Richards, ClientInsights.ca
Advisors invest a huge amount of energy on their client meetings, with a goal of having clients leave feeling positive about their advisor and about their financial situation. But many advisors miss on the final step to make meetings truly successful – a follow up letter or email that documents what happened and lays out next steps.
The article below first appeared in Horsesmouth, the leading online practice management resource for US advisors. Written by a highly successful advisor, it sets out a six-step process for effective follow-up communication after meetings. (Click here for a free 45-day trial to Horsesmouth
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By Ralph Adamo, MSFS, ChFC, CAP, CLU
Oct. 1, 2012
Send clients a written summary after every meeting you have with them. Not only does it confirm your conversation, but it serves as a to-do list, historical record, and a physical reminder that you offer world-class service to those clients and prospects smart enough to hire you.
In our office, no client meeting passes without a follow-up summary letter being drafted, edited, and sent to clients and prospects by either hard copy or email. This routine is crucial to our efforts in a number of ways:
- Many clients and prospects tell us they have gained confidence merely from knowing that we cared enough to listen, take notes, memorialize those notes, and play back the salient points in a summary letter.
- As a group, the summary letters build a chronological progression of the discussions and work achieved to date. I cannot tell you how many clients bring all the letters they’ve received over time to each successive meeting. They are using these letters as a historical record as well as a to-do list of items still outstanding.
- We have the records of all client meetings—not just stored as notes to file, but notes that are in the client’s possession. Should there ever be an instance where we need to address a client complaint, we can quickly and easily refer back to the summary letters.
Letter format
So what exactly goes in the summary letter? In our office, each letter includes:
- An opening
- Highlights of the meeting
- Advisor action items
- Client action items
- Next meeting’s proposed agenda items
- A closing that confirms the next meeting date
Let’s break it down here one component at a time:
1. The opening
The first step is to clarify the reason why you are sending this correspondence. An example of this language is below:
I would like to express my sincere appreciation for the opportunity to meet and visit with you on Tuesday morning. I enjoyed our time spent and trust that what was shared did prove valuable. Below are the summary points from our last meeting:
~ or ~
I thoroughly enjoyed our visit and conversation the other afternoon. I felt that the objectives and concerns that you shared are consistent and highly compatible with our existing approach to planning in this area. In order to summarize our meeting highlights, I’m including the following bullet points as a reflection of our discussion:
Of course, it is perfectly fine that you add opening pleasantries or cordial salutations in this stage. Personalizing any of these sections with your customized approach and language is always a good idea.
2. Discussion highlights
I list the highlights from the meeting’s discussion in bullet-point fashion. I use bullet points rather than paragraphs to better separate ideas for retention, reflection, and ultimately action for both client and advisor alike. We always incorporate the hard facts of the discussion as well as the softer-issue topics that inevitably arise in client meetings.
For instance, we’ll include summary feedback on personal items like the status of a current home remodel, a client’s personal travel plans, family events, and recent individual milestones or accomplishments, and so on.
Here’s an example of the items we would include from a meeting:
- We are happy to share in the celebration of your upcoming 29th anniversary. Congratulations!
- You relayed to us that you have negotiated a contractor budget of $86,000 for the home improvement work. It’s your goal to have this work done in time to be moving in by Labor Day, so as to alleviate any additional household expenses.
- We reviewed two alternative models. The first: retiring with staged reductions in expenses at 10-year intervals during retirement. And the second: retiring with level spending assumptions throughout retirement.
- You shared with us that you would like to meet and discuss moving your 403(b) and two IRA positions to our investment platform.
- We discussed the challenges you have been having with ABC Bank’s portfolio accounts when trying to remove those funds and place them in your control. We decided that preparing ACAT transfer forms would be our next step. We will prepare those forms once we receive copies of the recent statements.
- We discussed the portfolio in light of the cash positions within the defined-benefit and 401(k) retirement accounts. We are postponing any decisions surrounding the implementation of those funds until your company’s imminent launch.
- You shared with us that you purchased a house for your son while he’s completing an internship for his PhD at Notre Dame University. You paid $85,000 for the home, which you’ll be gifting to your son over the next three years.
- You confirmed for us that you personally hold 100% of the note on Building 1 in the LLC. You had shared with us that you and your wife continue to discuss family goals. Currently you are in the process of sorting through your charitable concerns and the importance of keeping the spirit of enterprise and industry alive for your children as you embark on your life after the sale of your business.
Our goal is to show the client or prospect that we truly listened. Our summary letter illustrates that we are committed to the relationship and deeply care about our clients and their future. You know the old saying “Clients don’t care how much we know until they know how much we care.” The summary letter helps us demonstrate our conviction.
3. Advisor action items
This section of the summary letter serves two purposes. It communicates to the client that we have listed the action items clearly, and it serves as a checklist for you and your staff to use to complete a course of action.
Advisor Action Items
- Complete entering the data provided in preparation for our next meeting.
- Provide to you the Excel spreadsheet for entering your budget details (look for that in a separate email).
- Request from insurance carrier ABC additional in-force ledgers to review and advise.
- Review pension and personal portfolio account providing analysis.
- Develop an investment recommendation for $500,000 from the sale of bank stock and commodities.
4. Client action items
In the next section of the summary, we outline the action items the client should take in between meetings. In my experience, this one step does more than any other to communicate the seriousness of the client’s role in the planning process. It is amazing to see how quickly our clients supply needed items or take action based on the recommendations in this checklist. Here is a sample from one of our recent communications:
Client Action Items
- Please provide an updated copy of your home owner and automobile coverages along with the earthquake policy at your next convenience. Fax copy is fine. Send it to 949–955-XXXX.
- Contact insurance carrier XYZ to modify long-term-care premium from quarterly to annual mode; submitting balance of annual premium presently may be required.
- Complete the Cash Flow Budget spreadsheet and provide in advance of our next meeting.
- Please provide the following:
- Need cost basis for various investments in the ABC Brokerage account (recent statement would suffice).
- Benefit booklet from XYZ Employer.
- Copy of paycheck stubs.
- Tax return for 2011.
5. Next meeting agenda items
This is the step where art meets science. Before explaining this section of the summary letter, let’s review the example:
Next Meeting Agenda
- Continue to verify accuracy of information represented on the model.
- Will and trust discussion
- Portfolio management conversation
- Asset positioning
- Are we demonstrating sufficient value? What should/can be improved/eliminated to elevate your experience and level of satisfaction with our service?
- Review process and engagement outline in greater detail. Are we at the point to consider formal engagement?
Notice that we have included not merely facts on the list, but we are also subtly grooming clients and prospects by asking them for feedback. This step allows us to systematically elicit input on how we are doing as a firm and how the client is experiencing the process.
Since we offer every prospective client at least two—and in many instances as many as three—meetings at no charge and no obligation prior to any engagement, we subtly remind the prospective client that we’re moving out of the “decision-free zone” and into the “fish or cut bait” stage where paying for the counseling is now coming to the fore. (Note, we only hold the second or third meeting if we earnestly believe there is a fit between us and the prospect.)
6. Closing paragraph
Here is where we invite questions or concerns that may not have been expressed or adequately addressed. The client may suggest edits, additions, or even reprioritize the proposed agenda items.
Most important, we never conclude a meeting without scheduling the next meeting. Getting the appointment on the calendar is critical to keeping the momentum going. Plus, just knowing that we have to end every summary letter with the next meeting date quietly reminds us to pull out the calendar as we wind down the current meeting. Here are a couple examples of our closing:
Our next meeting is scheduled for Friday, Aug. 31, at 9 a.m. in your office. In the meantime, if there are any questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to contact me directly.
~ or ~
We came out of our meeting with the objective of getting back together in the not-too-distant future. We tentatively set Tuesday, Aug. 28 at 3 p.m. for our next planning meeting. The meeting with the trust and estates attorney will occur separately. Our staff will coordinate that meeting date.
Final hints
Here are some tips based on our experience that will give you a head start on the process of using these summary letters.
- Develop a notepad for client meetings. We developed a form that can quickly capture some or all information listed above. It helps us translate our notes and makes the summary letter a breeze to produce. In fact, if you take well-organized notes, you can hand your sheet to your staff and they can easily produce the summary letter on their own, saving you the step of dictating or transcribing. All you need to do is review the final letter. A sample of our notepad is below (the to-do list areas are a bit longer on our actual notepad):

- Produce a summary letter for phone and online sessions. Clients may not attach the same degree of seriousness to a meeting that is not face to face, so sending a summary letter lends a greater degree of gravity to the issues discussed. In fact, it’s a good idea to provide a summary letter for all appointments with clients and prospects, whether they take place by phone, online, or in person.
- Send the letter a couple of days after the meeting. The sooner the letter arrives in the client’s hands, the better. Don’t let too much time pass, or your letter will lose its desired impact—and both you and your client will lose momentum.
- Keep sending. Once you start down this path with clients, you’ll have to keep it up. As you will soon see, your clients come to rely on these summary letters as routine. Before you know it, they will become a mandatory component of your client service and prospecting efforts—but the results will be well worth the effort involved.

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Optimize Your Client Year-End Reviews
Wednesday, October 24th, 2012
Optimize Your Client Year-End Reviews
by Rosemary Smyth and Sara Gilbert
Year-end portfolio reviews are around the corner; as you start scheduling your client meetings take this opportunity to leverage the organic potential in your business. Research shows us that today’s investor is seeking a deeper level of portfolio review. Beyond returns and data, clients want to build a deep relationship with their advisor.
The more you know about your clients, the easier it is to provide the products that best suit their needs. Be curious about their opinions and viewpoints, and make a habit of asking them what they think and what is important to them. “Imagining yourself in your clients’ shoes is one way to figure out what they need”, says Rosemary Smyth, international business coach for financial advisors.
Five tips to improve client service are:
- Be fully present.
- Establish trust. Give honest answers and be straightforward about what you can do.
- Empathize with your clients. Imagine what they are going through, especially during tough times.
- Be patient. Even when you have answered the same question many previous times, answer it patiently.
- Be open to learning. There are always new ways to deal with clients.
Focus on each client as an unique individual that just wants to be seen, heard and understood. Personalize your client service so that you are treating them how they would like to be treated. Pay attention to their body language as it can tell you what is not being said.
“Here are some useful tools you can easily implement to deepen your relationship with clients and uncover business opportunities”, says Sara Gilbert, founder of Strategist in Montreal.
1. Put more structure into client meetings.
Start using a meeting flow chart to get the most out of every client meeting and constantly find new ways to be of greater service to your clients:
- Inquire about their family
- Ask what’s on their mind, and about any significant changes since last meeting
- Review the portfolio and investments
- Check for outside investments (offer second opinion)
- Discuss other topics or concerns they may have
- Summarize and present an action plan, invite them to an upcoming event
- Walk the client to the elevator and thank them for the meeting.
2. Use goal-driven client reviews.
Behind the market and the returns, there’s a person, a family and a business. Show your client you care beyond their investment and let them guide you towards their personal ambitions. Ask open-ended questions, such as:
- What is your vision of an ideal retirement?
- Have you discussed with your significant other his/her vision of retirement?
- What values would you like to pass on to your children regarding money?
- Do you have concerns regarding the wealth transfer to your children?
3. Ask about their expectations.
As you can’t assume or guess your client’s satisfaction level, ask open-ended questions to show your clients you value their opinions.
- We are reviewing the effectiveness of our portfolio review meetings with our clients. How valuable you find the reporting we provide? Is there enough information? Does it clearly explain how your portfolio performed? Why or why not?
- Are there ways we could improve the timeliness and effectiveness of our responses?
- Are there ways we could improve our communications? (Cite a specific communication piece such as investment commentary, market outlook or newsletter.)
- What are two or three ways our firm could improve how we serve you?
4. Offer additional services.
If you want to become your client’s trusted advisor, you must constantly elevate the client experience and earn their trust.
- Propose a complete financial plan to further preserve their lifestyle that they have taken years to attain; and
- Offer insurance analysis to protect their loved ones and to ensure they do not become a “burden” on their families.
There are great opportunities surrounding the portfolio review meeting; opportunities to deepen the client relationship, to deliver exceptionally personalised service that distinguish you and to elevate your service, offering helping them safely achieve their goals and objectives.
What will you do to leverage the organic potential in your business?
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Rosemary Smyth, MBA, CIM, FCSI, ACC, is an author, columnist and an international business coach for financial advisors. She spent her career working at leading investment firms before pursuing her passion for coaching. She lives in Victoria, BC. Visit her website at www.rosemarysmyth.com. You can email Rosemary at: rosemary@rosemarysmyth.com
Sara Gilbert, FMA, FCSI, CSWP, is Founder and Business Consultant of Strategist Business development. She brings over 15 years of wealth management industry experience to help wealth advisor develop and implement business building strategies. Visit her website at: www.Strategist.cc, you can reach her via email at: Sara.Gilbert@Strategist.cc

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Why Your Sales Process No Longer Works—And What to Do About It
Wednesday, February 8th, 2012
by Katharine Vessenes, of Vestment Advisors, via ClientInsights.ca
I have a regular column in Horsesmouth, the leading online practice management resource for US financial advisors.
Recently, I read an article that impressed me. Written by Katherine Vessenes, a lawyer and well known consultant to successful advisors, she has given permission to reproduce her article. To see more about her work or to sign up for her newsletter, go to www.vestmentadvisors.com.
By Katherine Vessenes
As a student of great financial advisors and their sales processes, I have been fortunate to actually sit in on client meetings with some of the top financial advisors in the country. Who wouldn’t want to be a fly on the wall when an $8 million dollar advisor closes the sale? It has been my privilege, as a practice management coach, to not only watch the great financial advisors in action, but to even offer a few suggestions on how they might close more business.
Here is what I have learned, just this last summer, as we coached two of the top advisors in the country on managing their practice and improving their sales practice:
A shortened, quick sales process that was very effective 10 years ago, is much less effective today.
In 2000, it was not unusual for our firm, Vestment Advisors, to consult with $3 million financial advisors who worked with the middle market. Our goal was to use our practice management process to increase these advisors’ sales and build the value of their business. Every one of them got their sales process down to two meetings of an hour and a half each; three meetings were needed only in the rare case for higher-end or more complicated clients.
That kind of compressed, quick sales process was very effective 10 years ago, but it is much less effective in today’s wary economic climate. Ten years ago, it was common practice. Not so today.
Today, many clients are not prepared to make a decision at the second meeting.
Most clients haven’t yet built up a trust factor with their financial advisor by the second meeting. They are still skeptical. The reason: clients are fearful about changing money managers, investment styles, and advisors, even though they are in a lot of emotional pain.
Furthermore, clients don’t like sitting for long meetings. They are busy, much busier than 10 years ago. They don’t have the time, energy, or attention span to meet for two hours. Today, the shorter the meetings, the better for most clients.
Two of the advisors we coached this summer had both lengthened their sales process to four shorter meetings. It was working so well for them that their closing ratios were far higher than we currently are seeing with other firms. In fact, they were probably closing 80% to 95%. These ratios are quite high, given the current market.
Here’s what’s covered in each of the four meetings:
First meeting: Orientation or “getting-to-know-you”
Time: 45 minutes to an hour
The whole purpose in this meeting is to get a better feel for prospects, how they tick, and what they are looking for in a relationship. As New Jersey advisor Paul Hartline (not his real name) said to me, “When you have been in the business for 30 years, you can tell in that initial meeting if you want them for a client or not.”
Most advisors who use a “get-to-know-you” meeting ask the client not to bring in any personal financial data. They feel it helps build trust and makes the client feel more comfortable.
Hartline does this meeting in his office because he also wants new clients to get a feel for him. Hartline is in a class-A space, and his office and staff show very well. The whole setup makes a great first impression on prospects.
On the other hand, George Jackson (also not his real name), from Seattle, does a first meeting that is all about the new client. Jackson usually conducts this meeting at a prospect’s office or even at his or her home. This lets them feel comfortable, lets him get to know them better, and he says the client then feels obligated to come to George’s office for the next meeting as a social courtesy.
Second meeting: Data gathering
Time: 1 to 1½ hours
During this meeting, the advisor gathers the data necessary to complete a financial plan. Advisors are reviewing all the investments, insurance, and other data that will be needed to make recommendations.
Paul does this meeting in the client’s home. He says he likes to see how the clients live. It lets him know if they are big spenders or savers, and he gets a better feel for them as people. It also makes it easier to gather the information Paul needs for the planning.
George does just the opposite. Since he has already met with the prospects in their home or office, they come to George’s office for the data gathering.
Third meeting: Plan presentation and gap analysis
Time: Up to 2 hours
We have seen advisors call this meeting many things. Most of them are presenting what we call the “plan,” but it’s really a situational analysis of the new client’s numbers, where that person stands, and the likelihood he or she will run out of money in retirement.
Advisors also look at the gaps between the clients’ goals and where they are likely to end up.
Universally, these meetings are held in the advisor’s office.
Typically, the client leaves the third meeting with answers to these questions:
- Will I run out of money in retirement?
- How much do I need to save to reach my goals?
- What can I do to save taxes now and in the future?
Some advisors may present a few products here. Many will talk about the products only generically. They might discuss REITs in general, and why it would be a good choice, but stop short of naming a specific one.
Fourth meeting: Implementation
Time: 1½ to 2 hours.
At this meeting, the advisor is talking about specific products, money managers, signing paperwork, and moving the investments over to the new firm.
For particularly fearful clients, or for those with complicated situations, this meeting could stretch into two meetings.
Key takeaways
Practice management lessons and adaptive strategies learned from flexible—and therefore successful—advisors and planners:
- What worked really well 10 years ago may not work so well now. We all have to change with the times and be sensitive to where clients are emotionally these days.
- The overall amount of time you spend with clients is likely to be more than it was 10 years ago. Even though each meeting is shorter, chances are you will be holding more meetings, and therefore spending more time, with potential clients before they are ready to commit.
- Just as I like to remind advisors that all marketing is trial and error, the same is true with your sales process. Test out different strategies and orders to see what works for you and what doesn’t.
- Nothing, no matter how great the system, works 100% of the time.
- Prospects and clients simply are more fearful now, so it will take longer to build up substantial trust with new people.
Katherine Vessenes, JD, CFP, a nationally known author and speaker, has the best job in the world.
She turns average producers into stars by focusing on sales, marketing, compliance, and practice management issues for broker-dealers and advisors. You can contact Katherine at (952) 401‑1045 or at katherine@vestmentadvisors.com. Or visit her website: www.vestmentadvisors.com.

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The Misconception of Asking Dumb Questions
Wednesday, January 18th, 2012
You’ve probably heard the saying that there’s no such thing as a dumb question—only the ones you don’t ask. Depending on that, you might assume that potential clients comprehend your requirement to discover insight about their issues and so provide you with license to pose dumb questions.
You are able to get away with that to some extent in client meetings. But clients expect you to learn quick, and will evaluate your capabilities accordingly. When the depth of your questions does not enhance the client’s impression of you with every one you ask, watch out.
Prior to you asking your client a question, consider these three points:
1. Will your question really enhance your knowledge of the client’s issue?
2. Will it encourage the client to think much more deeply about the matter?
3. Will your question lead the client to ask you questions about your plan?
A perfect client question furthers your understanding of the situation, adds some value for that client, and shows that you really know your stuff. Obviously, not every thing you ask about needs to trigger your clients to stroke their chins and ruminate on a response; you style some questions solely to collect fundamental info.
There are dumb questions, and you get to ask a small number of them in any client meeting. Make sure to try to ask them early on if you want to remain around to win the sale.

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Ten minutes to MUCH more Effective Client Meetings
Wednesday, January 4th, 2012
Ten minutes to MUCH more effective client meetings
Given the importance of client reviews, advisors should always be alert for ways to make them more effective.
Some ideas to make meetings more productive highlighted in past articles:
Writing down key objectives in advance of meetings
Using agendas to keep meetings on track and improve the sense among clients that they’re getting value from the time invested
Structuring the items you cover in meetings based on research on what leads to positive recollections of experiences
Employing technology to make telephone meetings look and feel more like face to face meetings
Kicking off your meetings with a strong question to engage clients
Recently I spoke to an advisor who made a simple change to meeting agendas and saw a significant improvement as a result.
Starting meetings by engaging clients
Last year, this advisor started using meeting agendas, using the three step process that was laid out in one of my articles:
1. When setting up the meeting, start by asking clients about any questions they’d like to cover, then mentioned the items he wanted to cover.
2. He followed up with an email to clients with the agenda that arose from this conversation.
3. When he sat down with clients, the agenda would have all the items they’d discussed moved down one spot, with the first item blank.
He’d start meetings by saying:
“Here’s the agenda we agreed to, but you’ll notice the first item is blank. That’s in case anything’s come up since we spoke that you’d like to talk about or in case we’ve missed anything.”
Then he’d go on to say:
“What is there that we should talk about today that’s not on this agenda.”
Most of the time clients answered that there was nothing else, that everything was on the agenda. Even so, there was benefit in engaging clients right off the top and letting them know that this was their meeting, not his. But occasionally, clients would raise important issues that would not have come up otherwise.
Helping clients stay focused
Even with this strong start, this advisor found that clients would sometimes lose focus during meetings. Further, often clients would walk away from meeting and then seem to forget what they covered shortly afterwards.
As a result, he made a simple change that has helped address these problems.
He still prepares an agenda in advance of meetings, but now he takes 10 minutes beforehand to add two or three bullet points under each agenda item, summarizing the key points he’s making. Now when clients sit down, they not only have a list of items that will be covering in the meeting but a cheat sheet of the key points under each item.
Two positive things have happened as a result of this.
First, this has helped keep clients on track and to maintain their attention. It’s like the difference between being at a talk in which the speaker is delivering her message verbally as opposed to having a presentation to reinforce key points and a handout with which to follow along.
Second, he’s found that client retention of key points covered in the meeting has become much better. In essence, he’s supplied clients with meeting notes that they can use to follow on during the meeting and to take away afterwards.
While filling in key points on the agenda for client meetings worked for this advisor, of course it may not work for you. But consider giving this a try in an upcoming meeting and seeing if it adds value — the only way to improve is by being open to new ideas and approaches, integrating the ones that work into your process, discarding the ones that don’t.

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Why Your Sales Process No Longer Works—And What to Do About It
Wednesday, December 21st, 2011
I have a regular column in Horsesmouth, the leading online practice management resource for US financial advisors.
Recently, I read an article that impressed me. Written by Katherine Vessenes, a lawyer and well known consultant to successful advisors, she has given permission to reproduce her article. To see more about her work or to sign up for her newsletter, go to www.vestmentadvisors.com.
By Katherine Vessenes:
As a student of great financial advisors and their sales processes, I have been fortunate to actually sit in on client meetings with some of the top financial advisors in the country. Who wouldn’t want to be a fly on the wall when an $8 million dollar advisor closes the sale? It has been my privilege, as a practice management coach, to not only watch the great financial advisors in action, but to even offer a few suggestions on how they might close more business.
Here is what I have learned, just this last summer, as we coached two of the top advisors in the country on managing their practice and improving their sales practice:
A shortened, quick sales process that was very effective 10 years ago, is much less effective today.
In 2000, it was not unusual for our firm, Vestment Advisors, to consult with $3 million financial advisors who worked with the middle market. Our goal was to use our practice management process to increase these advisors’ sales and build the value of their business. Every one of them got their sales process down to two meetings of an hour and a half each; three meetings were needed only in the rare case for higher-end or more complicated clients.
That kind of compressed, quick sales process was very effective 10 years ago, but it is much less effective in today’s wary economic climate. Ten years ago, it was common practice. Not so today. Today, many clients are not prepared to make a decision at the second meeting. Most clients haven’t yet built up a trust factor with their financial advisor by the second meeting. They are still skeptical. The reason: clients are fearful about changing money managers, investment styles, and advisors, even though they are in a lot of emotional pain.
Furthermore, clients don’t like sitting for long meetings. They are busy, much busier than 10 years ago. They don’t have the time, energy, or attention span to meet for two hours. Today, the shorter the meetings, the better for most clients. Two of the advisors we coached this summer had both lengthened their sales process to four shorter meetings. It was working so well for them that their closing ratios were far higher than we currently are seeing with other firms. In fact, they were probably closing 80% to 95%. These ratios are quite high, given the current market.
Here’s what’s covered in each of the four meetings:
First meeting: Orientation or “getting-to-know-you”
Time: 45 minutes to an hour
The whole purpose in this meeting is to get a better feel for prospects, how they tick, and what they are looking for in a relationship. As New Jersey advisor Paul Hartline (not his real name) said to me, “When you have been in the business for 30 years, you can tell in that initial meeting if you want them for a client or not.”
Most advisors who use a “get-to-know-you” meeting ask the client not to bring in any personal financial data. They feel it helps build trust and makes the client feel more comfortable.
Hartline does this meeting in his office because he also wants new clients to get a feel for him. Hartline is in a class-A space, and his office and staff show very well. The whole setup makes a great first impression on prospects.
On the other hand, George Jackson (also not his real name), from Seattle, does a first meeting that is all about the new client. Jackson usually conducts this meeting at a prospect’s office or even at his or her home. This lets them feel comfortable, lets him get to know them better, and he says the client then feels obligated to come to George’s office for the next meeting as a social courtesy.

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A simple strategy for more effective meetings
Wednesday, December 14th, 2011
Advisors have two competing and contradictory imperatives when meeting with clients.On the one hand, it’s essential to establish an emotional connection and have clients feel truly listened to. You do this by engaging clients with good questions and by being alert for nuances in how they answer, maintaining eye contact and reading their body language.
On the other hand, we need to make notes to ensure that we capture new information and key points in our conversation.
The difficulty for some advisors is the focus on taking notes undermines your ability to fully concentrate on the subtle things that can be important tip offs in a conversation and prevents clients from feeling that they have your complete, undivided attention.
Recently, I spoke to an advisor who has eliminated a key barrier to making that connection — and has seen much better outcomes from meetings as a result.
Some years ago, she began having her assistant sit in on client meetings with the express purpose of taking notes of what was said and then typing the notes up for the client file afterwards. By doing this and this alone, this advisor was able to put her entire focus on the client interaction — and found her ability to listen to clients and establish a connection much improved as a result.
Another advisor achieves the same goal by asking some clients for permission to record meetings — and then has his assistant summarize those recordings afterwards. To minimize the administrative burden, he only does this for meetings with key clients — but finds that this makes meetings much more productive and effective.
Given the sensitivity of many meetings today, it’s never been more important to establish an emotional connection and have clients feel they have your full attention. If this is something you’re struggling with, consider trying this in a few upcoming meetings — like the advisors I’ve described, you too may be surprised by the difference this makes.

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Ten minutes to MUCH more effective client meetings
Wednesday, September 28th, 2011
Ten minutes to MUCH more effective client meetings
Given the importance of client reviews, advisors should always be alert for ways to make them more effective.
Some ideas to make meetings more productive highlighted in past articles:
- Writing down key objectives in advance of meetings
- Using agendas to keep meetings on track and improve the sense among clients that they’re getting value from the time invested
- Structuring the items you cover in meetings based on research on what leads to positive recollections of experiences
- Employing technology to make telephone meetings look and feel more like face to face meetings
- Kicking off your meetings with a strong question to engage clients
Recently I spoke to an advisor who made a simple change to meeting agendas and saw a significant improvement as a result.
Starting meetings by engaging clients
Last year, this advisor started using meeting agendas, using the three step process that was laid out in one of my articles:
1. When setting up the meeting, start by asking clients about any questions they’d like to cover, then mentioned the items he wanted to cover.
2. He followed up with an email to clients with the agenda that arose from this conversation.
3. When he sat down with clients, the agenda would have all the items they’d discussed moved down one spot, with the first item blank.
He’d start meetings by saying:
“Here’s the agenda we agreed to, but you’ll notice the first item is blank. That’s in case anything’s come up since we spoke that you’d like to talk about or in case we’ve missed anything.”
Then he’d go on to say:
“What is there that we should talk about today that’s not on this agenda.”
Most of the time clients answered that there was nothing else, that everything was on the agenda. Even so, there was benefit in engaging clients right off the top and letting them know that this was their meeting, not his. But occasionally, clients would raise important issues that would not have come up otherwise.
Helping clients stay focused
Even with this strong start, this advisor found that clients would sometimes lose focus during meetings. Further, often clients would walk away from meeting and then seem to forget what they covered shortly afterwards.
As a result, he made a simple change that has helped address these problems.
He still prepares an agenda in advance of meetings, but now he takes 10 minutes beforehand to add two or three bullet points under each agenda item, summarizing the key points he’s making. Now when clients sit down, they not only have a list of items that will be covering in the meeting but a cheat sheet of the key points under each item.
Two positive things have happened as a result of this.
First, this has helped keep clients on track and to maintain their attention. It’s like the difference between being at a talk in which the speaker is delivering her message verbally as opposed to having a presentation to reinforce key points and a handout with which to follow along.
Second, he’s found that client retention of key points covered in the meeting has become much better. In essence, he’s supplied clients with meeting notes that they can use to follow on during the meeting and to take away afterwards.
While filling in key points on the agenda for client meetings worked for this advisor, of course it may not work for you. But consider giving this a try in an upcoming meeting and seeing if it adds value — the only way to improve is by being open to new ideas and approaches, integrating the ones that work into your process, discarding the ones that don’t.

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Warren Buffett’s Strategy for Effective Client Meetings
Wednesday, September 14th, 2011
Last week I spoke to an investor who got a call from his advisor’s assistant about scheduling a time to review his portfolio.
“I had the same reaction as when I get a call from my dentist’s office” said this investor, whose account was worth over $1 million at the end of 2010. “I recognize it’s important and something that I have to do, but also know it’s not likely to be pleasant, so put it off as long as I can.”
For many clients, the regrettable reality is that meeting with their advisor is no longer an uplifting experience. Instead of anticipating meetings with enthusiasm, they look to meetings with foreboding. Instead of walking away optimistic about possibilities, they leave burdened down by limitations
This situation is unhealthy and unsustainable for both clients and for advisors. Here are three steps to make client meetings a more positive experience, including an idea borrowed from Warren Buffett.
Step one: Be upbeat
For many advisors, the challenge of creating positive client meetings starts with being positive yourself. Unless you’re upbeat, there’s no chance that your clients will be.
Markets like we’ve seen of late can obviously make this a challenge, but that doesn’t make this less of a priority. Being positive doesn’t mean that you’re oblivious to the challenges we’re facing — clients are looking for realistic optimism, not someone with a “don’t worry be happy” view of the world.
In January 2009, I wrote about 12 ways to stay positive. Some sample strategies:
- Start by recognizing how important this is; being positive is the necessary first step to effective interactions with clients
- Exercise at the start of the day to give you a boost; even a short brisk walk can help
- Find ways to fight fatigue and renew energy during the day; get some fresh air at lunch, and throughout the day take energy boosting snacks like fruit
- Take short breaks; schedule a short walk outside between client meetings
- Be alert to signs that your energy level is dropping; before making a call or going into a meeting, take 30 seconds to focus on lifting your mood
- Seek out positive colleagues who give you energy, avoid negative ones who suck it away
Step two: Look past the bad news
It’s hard to maintain a positive outlook when you’re drowning in a sea of negative headlines.
When meeting with clients, start by acknowledging the real challenges faced by global economies.
Don’t let the gloom wear you and your client down. Introduce some offsetting good news. For example, point to three or four quality companies whose prices have been beaten down and shift the focus of the conversation to the value in recognized market leaders like Shoppers Drug Mart, TD Bank or Telus in Canada and McDonalds, Nestle or Wal-Mart outside Canada.
Step three: Focus on what you can control
Warren Buffett is a name who inspires confidence among average investors; look at what happened to Bank of America’s share price after his investment was announced. When he discusses the performance of Berkshire Hathaway in his annual report and his investor meeting each spring, he never mentions the share price, focusing instead on its book value. In essence, he changes the scorecard by which his performance is measured, shifting from share price to something he has more control over.
Advisors should try to do the same. You obviously have to talk about what’s happened to client portfolios, but need to go beyond that to talk about things which you can influence. For example, you can set a goal of a 3% annual cash return from your client’s portfolio, better than what they’ll get on GICs, and as part of your conversation, talk about their cash flow in the recent period versus that goal.
Or you can talk about the monthly income that clients will receive in retirement from all sources of income, based on today’s portfolio and some conservative assumptions on future performance and compare it to the base case needs in their financial plan. Of course, the market decline means that their projected monthly income will be down compared to what it would have been at the start of the year, but depending on how much of a buffer they had in January, their projected income may still be above their base needs.
If there is a shortfall, chances are that it will be less than clients fear. At least you can have an open conversation about the options to close the gap, reminding clients that if future performance is better than the assumptions, these may not be needed. Again, your goal is to focus on things you can control.
One final note; I’ve written in the past about the research showing that the most positive impact from vacations doesn’t come from the experience itself or the positive memories afterwards, but rather the process of looking forward to them. The implication is clear; in addition to periodic longer vacations to recharge our batteries, we should have lots of shorter, more frequent holidays, say a four-day weekend away once a quarter.
As part of your strategy to stay positive, schedule these short holidays — and encourage your clients to do the same. That way, at the end of your meeting, you’ll be able to briefly compare notes with your client not only on recent trips, but also those that are coming up.
And for anyone interested, here’s a link to that 2009 article on ten tips to stay positive http://www.clientinsights.ca/article/ten-tips-for-motivation-in-2009
Last week I spoke to an investor who got a call from his advisor’s assistant about scheduling a time to review his portfolio.
“I had the same reaction as when I get a call from my dentist’s office” said this investor, whose account was worth over $1 million at the end of 2010. “I recognize it’s important and something that I have to do, but also know it’s not likely to be pleasant — so put it off as long as I can.”
For many clients, the regrettable reality is that meeting with their advisor is no longer an uplifting experience. Instead of anticipating meetings with enthusiasm, they look to meetings with foreboding. Instead of walking away optimistic about possibilities, they leave burdened down by limitations
This situation is unhealthy and unsustainable for both clients and for advisors. Here are three steps to make client meetings a more positive experience, including an idea borrowed from Warren Buffett.
Step one: Be upbeat
For many advisors, the challenge of creating positive client meetings starts with being positive yourself. Unless you’re upbeat, there’s no chance that your clients will be.
Markets like we’ve seen of late can obviously make this a challenge — but that doesn’t make this less of a priority. Being positive doesn’t mean that you’re oblivious to the challenges we’re facing — clients are looking for realistic optimism, not someone with a “don’t worry be happy” view of the world.
In January 2009, I wrote about 12 ways to stay positive. Some sample strategies:
- Start by recognizing how important this is — being positive is the necessary first step to effective interactions with clients
- Exercise at the start of the day to give you a boost — even a short brisk walk can help
- Find ways to fight fatigue and renew energy during the day — get some fresh air at lunch, and throughout the day take energy boosting snacks like fruit
- Take short breaks — schedule a short walk outside between client meetings
- Be alert to signs that your energy level is dropping — before making a call or going into a meeting, take 30 seconds to focus on lifting your mood.
- Seek out positive colleagues who give you energy, avoid negative ones who suck it away
Step two: Look past the bad news
It’s hard to maintain a positive outlook when you’re drowning in a sea of negative headlines.
When meeting with clients, start by acknowledging the real challenges faced by global economies.
But don’t let the gloom wear you and your client down — introduce some offsetting good news. For example, point to three or four quality companies whose prices have been beaten down — and shift the focus of the conversation to the value in recognized market leaders like Shoppers Drug Mart, TD Bank or Telus in Canada and McDonalds, Nestle or WalMart outside Canada.
Step three: Focus on what you can control
Warren Buffett is a name who inspires confidence among average investors — look at what happened to Bank of America’s share price after his investment was announced. When he discusses the performance of Berkshire Hathaway in his annual report and his investor meeting each spring, he never mentions the share price, focusing instead on its book value. In essence, he changes the scorecard by which his performance is measured, shifting from share price to something he has more control over.
Advisors should try to do the same. You obviously have to talk about what’s happened to client portfolios, but need to go beyond that to talk about things which you can influence. For example, you can set a goal of a 3% annual cash return from your client’s portfolio, better than what they’ll get on GICs — and as part of your conversation, talk about their cash flow in the recent period versus that goal.
Or you can talk about the monthly income that clients will receive in retirement from all sources of income, based on today’s portfolio and some conservative assumptions on future performance — and compare it to the base case needs in their financial plan. Of course, the market decline means that their projected monthly income will be down compared to what it would have been at the start of the year, but depending on how much of a buffer they had in January, their projected income may still be above their base needs.
And if there is a shortfall, chances are that it will be less than clients fear — and at least you can have an open conversation about the options to close the gap, reminding clients that if future performance is better than the assumptions, these may not be needed. Again, your goal is to focus on things you can control.
One final note. I’ve written in the past about the research showing that the most positive impact from vacations doesn’t come from the experience itself or the positive memories afterwards, but rather the process of looking forward to them. The implication is clear — in addition to periodic longer vacations to recharge our batteries, we should have lots of shorter, more frequent holidays, say a four-day weekend away once a quarter.
As part of your strategy to stay positive, schedule these short holidays — and encourage your clients to do the same. That way, at the end of your meeting, you’ll be able to briefly compare notes with your client not only on recent trips, but also those that are coming up.
And for anyone interested, here’s a link to that 2009 article on ten tips to stay positive http://www.clientinsights.ca/article/ten-tips-for-motivation-in-2009

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